How To Balance Work, Fun & Family Life (with Jessica Nazarali)
Jessica Nazarali helps women have it all – business, family & fun! Enjoy this inspiring interview to learn how she does it and how you can too.
I discovered Jess about 12 months ago.
At the time I was beginning to receive requests from people asking me to help them grow their blog, launch their start-up or expand their business. I wanted so much to say yes! My passion (and experience) lies in all things business & digital. And like this very website, business coaching would allow me to support and elevate the wellness entrepreneurs who make this world healthier & happier place. I already had the confidence to wear the hat of a consultant, mentor & teacher, however…
I had zero idea about what it meant to be a good ‘coach’!
I embarked on Jess’s 6-month Coaching Mastery program with the intention of offering my services once the course was complete. I dove in and gained fabulous new coaching skills, plus the confidence to begin coaching just a few months in! The result? By the time the course wrapped up, I had earned back my initial investment, plus a whole lot more! (If you have any questions about my experience with Coaching Mastery, please reach out).
Now, as we enter 2018 (alongside growing this wonderful site & community)…
I’m beyond excited to expand my Business Coaching offering and continue to live my dream life.
Jess’s support has played an important role in me reaching this point.
I hope this interview with Jess inspires YOU to “have it all” too!
So without further adieu…
How To Balance Work, Fun & Family Life, with Jessica Nazarali:
Jess, before we dive in, for those who are meeting you for the first time, could you please share a little bit about your journey into entrepreneurship and where you are now?
Thanks for asking Carly!
I started a blog in 2011 which lead me to blog coaching/consulting 18 months later. For 7 months I was coaching part-time while working in my corporate job before taking the plunge into full-time entrepreneurship.
What does success mean to you?
Success to me means having freedom in how I spend my time, and doing work which is making an impact and moving
humanity forward, while being able to be with my family.
Congratulations on welcoming to the world Leo last year. Did you always know that you wanted to remain working once having Leo?
The reason I started by blog in 2011 was because I knew when I had children I didn’t want to be working in a job. Throughout uni I was a nanny for two families and the Mum who was the happiest (in my eyes) was the Mum who had her own business. I knew I would want to work when I had children but I was very clear that I wanted to be working for myself not someone else. When I found out I was pregnant these feelings didn’t go away. I knew I would continue with my business after Leo was born because I love it so much! I couldn’t think of not doing it.
Have there been moments since you became pregnant where you thought you’d like to put the entrepreneur hat away?
No. Certain tasks yes (like managing my email!) but not giving up everything. Since having Leo I’ve been very focused on only doing what I’m best at and hiring people for the other tasks.
Do you feel like you need a break?
I’m in Bali as I’m writing this. Leo is asleep and in an hour we are going out to lunch. Is it a holiday – yes? Am I still working? Yes. But would I have it any other way? No. I find it much easier for work and family to co-exist together. For example if I took 12 months maternity leave it would be so much harder to start up the business again in 12 months time than it would be to keep things moving along now.
I love what I do so much that I don’t need weeks off from doing it. My work and life aren’t separate as it was when I was working in my job before starting my business.
For everyone wondering: How do you do it all?
I don’t! I outsource cleaning and washing. I don’t cook nearly as much as I “should” – trying to get back into it this year as I actually do enjoy it but it comes back again to time. In my business I have people who support the mission of the company and do the tasks that I can’t do or no longer have time for. Support is so crucial, you can’t do it all yourself!
Do you ever get that guilty feeling when you do take time to work?
Yes. I usually work when Leo is with someone else. I feel guilty when he is sitting by himself and I’m on my computer or phone so I try to only work when he is asleep or with someone else, but it doesn’t always work out that way! I figure he won’t die if he is left to play on his mat by himself for 15 minutes.
What’s your advice to other Mums (or soon-to-be Mums) who feel that guilt about maintaining their career?
You will probably go crazy if you don’t! If you feel like you want to maintain your career there is no point feeling guilty about it. Try to work out flexible working arrangements with your job or start a business or find contract work that allows you to work from home.
If you’re happy your children will be happy!
It’s not uncommon for women to feel like they have to choose between their career and having a family, however you were recently sharing with me your desire to spread the message that this doesn’t have to be case. Can you talk to this a little more?
Having an online business or taking on contracts works in beautifully with having a family. Some women love being stay at home Mums and they don’t need to work to bring in an income and if that’s you that’s fantastic. But a lot of women want to have something for themselves outside of being a Mum and if that’s you that’s okay too.
The problem is, traditional 9-5 jobs don’t suit family life in many cases.
If you know you want to start a family someday I highly recommend you start looking at what changes you need to make to your career NOW.
A lot of women say to me you’re so lucky you get to work from home and be with Leo etc etc… But it’s not luck. I knew I wanted to be working for myself when I was 20 as it would suit having a family and I’m now 30! It’s been something I’ve been working on for a while
One of the major benefits of working for an employer is paid maternity leave. How did you go about financial planning for when Leo arrived, and what are your tips for mothers or mothers-to-be who feel like they have to stick in there, to get this time with their new born?
Side note – You get maternity leave if you work for yourself and your personal income is under $80k in Australia.
I think you need to weigh up the pros and cons. You can also go on maternity leave before your baby arrives in Australia which is something to consider.
In terms of financial planning I did a lot of content creation before I had Leo so I would have my programs ready to enrol people into. I also hired a sales team to take sales calls for me. I knew the numbers I was aiming for so that didn’t really change because I was having a baby. It was more around managing and planning how I would spend my time after I had Leo.
What were your work hours like before Leo arrived, since he arrived, and then how do you anticipate them to change in the coming years?
Before Leo arrived I worked 8-9 hours a day and a few hours on the weekend and sometimes in the evening too if I was feeling inspired.
Now I work when Leo naps – 1-2 hours in the morning. 1-2 hours in the afternoon and then in the evening after he is asleep. It’s hard to say exactly how many hours because I’m terrible keeping track of the time (Like I never know how long Leo has been asleep for?!) But I would say on average 3-6 hours per day.
Between work and motherhood, how do you make time for you? For you as wife Jess & friend Jess etc?
I went into motherhood thinking I wouldn’t have that much time to myself for the first year and being okay with that. The truth is if you’re breastfeeding you won’t have much time to yourself for a while. I’ve travelled a lot, gone out to 5am in the morning, been to a million conferences and events – I’m okay with missing out on this for a while (and I don’t think I’ll ever be out to 5am ever again!)
I’m getting to the stage now where I can go out for an hour or two without Leo and I can see it’s only going to get easier and easier. Leo will only be little for such a short amount of time anyway so I’m enjoying us being so intertwined for now.
In terms of spending time with Faiz, well we are together all the time because we both work from home! We have dates while Leo sleeps which involves chatting or watching Gary V or Impact Theory on YouTube. I’m sure we will get out more by ourselves now Leo is eating solids and a bit older.
What are your top 5 tips for balancing motherhood & Self?
- Hire a cleaner/housekeeper
- Find an outlet which is just for you – could be your business or career or a hobby
- Remind yourself that it won’t be like this forever when it’s tough
- When you’re feeling challenged ask yourself “What is the lesson in this?” and “What can I learn from this situation?”
- Practice gratitude – every morning when you wake up list everything that you are grateful for either in your mind or even better write them down.
What’s your advice for women who still need or want to work after having a child, but would love to do it from home?
If you’re still working in a job negotiate flexible working conditions or look into contracting or freelancing work.
Another option is to look into starting your own online business (coaching, services or online courses) or network marketing business.
Networking marketing has a negative connotation in many circles – I get that! But it can be a great way to start a business for those who have limited funds or don’t have a product of their own to sell.
Who are the successful mothers with careers that inspire you?
Denise Duffield Thomas is a huge inspiration of mine. She is pregnant with her third baby and doesn’t seem to be slowing down.
I also love the work of Dr Shafal Tsabary who is a Mum and works in the realm of mindful parenting. She has been on Oprah and released best selling books all after becoming a Mum!
Can you share a little bit about the various business programs you’ve created for women (mother or not) and the value they offer?
I work with women predominantly in four different ways.
I mentor women who already have a business to at a minimum double their business within a year. There is unlimited access to me and other fun bonuses like a mastermind retreat in Bali!
Business Mastery is for women who are still looking for high level support but don’t want to commit to a year long program. Business Mastery has a focus on helping you to attract high level clients for your services or coaching business.
Coaching Mastery is a coaching certification program for women who want to be more than just a regular coach and learn consulting, teaching and mentoring skills along with coaching.
#TeamItGirl is my doTERRA business. I joined doTERRA when Leo was 2 months old and I have been absolutely loving it! It’s a great option for women who don’t want to create a business from scratch, have limited funds or don’t have a product to sell.
Can you share an example from the women who’ve worked with you to create a life where they can be a mum and still have a successful career?
YES! A past client of mine made $160K in her business last year while only working 2 days a week in her business (so inspiring right?!) She is now pregnant and due in about a month and is happy knowing that she has a thriving business that will work with having a family.
Another client who is a Mum of three just took her children to Europe for seven weeks over the Christmas break, paid for completely by her business.
Thank Jess for giving sharing your wisdom & giving us a peek into the world of someone who chose to be a Mum & have a career.
Now it’s your turn. Have you got a question for Jess? Pop it in the comments below so she can get back to you!
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